PlainSpeak
04-16 11:46 AM
Fact is ...
As long as anyone here talks about EB3 porting fraud, EB1 Fraud, Desi consulting fraud what makes this (EB2 guys with MS) category a simon pure category. udent
Yes fraud is fraud and if someone talks about fraud and restricting fraud then it should be directed at all groups including F1 Student fraud
As long as anyone here talks about EB3 porting fraud, EB1 Fraud, Desi consulting fraud what makes this (EB2 guys with MS) category a simon pure category. udent
Yes fraud is fraud and if someone talks about fraud and restricting fraud then it should be directed at all groups including F1 Student fraud
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vparam
09-08 12:18 PM
Now that your faith is restored, I'm assuming we'll see you in DC? :)
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
belmontboy
04-15 11:39 AM
Let us say that i agree to what ever you say. In what way does everything you stated above make a STEM graduate eligible for GC without an Employer sponsership. Why does it have to be only STEM graduates which will not need employer sponsership. If giving GC based on completion of MS in us is bypassing the employee sponserhsip then that has to be extended to all EB categories of immigrants (EB1/EB2/EB3) and the benefit o those visas have to be passed to the badly retrogressed category first.
Yes, the provision would apply across all EB classes. And if its quota exempted, then it does not matter as every eligible candidate gets his/her turn.
It si not teh question of liek or unliking or having jealousy. It is the question of law. According to the US law employee sponsership is EB category so any new bill which has to be introduced will have to follow the EB category employee sponsership rule, othwer wise it wil not see the light of the day.
Yes, that's what this provision is targeting. Change the law, make STEM grads cap exempt
Personally i see no chance of this DV lottery STEM billpassing in any shape or form either now or in the future
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Yes, the provision would apply across all EB classes. And if its quota exempted, then it does not matter as every eligible candidate gets his/her turn.
It si not teh question of liek or unliking or having jealousy. It is the question of law. According to the US law employee sponsership is EB category so any new bill which has to be introduced will have to follow the EB category employee sponsership rule, othwer wise it wil not see the light of the day.
Yes, that's what this provision is targeting. Change the law, make STEM grads cap exempt
Personally i see no chance of this DV lottery STEM billpassing in any shape or form either now or in the future
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jsb
08-14 02:01 PM
Currently NSC processing time for employment based 485 is 15th Sept. 2007... My notice date is 18th Sept. 2007 (based on case status shown on USCIS site)
Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)
Published dates are approximate dates for a ball park idea on where cases are for minimizing phone calls. If published date is Sep 8, 2007. It could have a very wide window of reality between (i) someone has looked at least one case of this date, or (ii) All cases upto this date have been seen. Most likely reality is close to first, as USCIS asks you to contact them if your 'receive notice date' is prior to the published date (suggesting that normally they expect all cases by the date should have been processed).
This suggests that there are cases with 'receive notice date' AFTER the published date, which have been opened. So, be optimistic, and hope for the best.
Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)
Published dates are approximate dates for a ball park idea on where cases are for minimizing phone calls. If published date is Sep 8, 2007. It could have a very wide window of reality between (i) someone has looked at least one case of this date, or (ii) All cases upto this date have been seen. Most likely reality is close to first, as USCIS asks you to contact them if your 'receive notice date' is prior to the published date (suggesting that normally they expect all cases by the date should have been processed).
This suggests that there are cases with 'receive notice date' AFTER the published date, which have been opened. So, be optimistic, and hope for the best.
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amulchandra
07-17 07:59 PM
Thank you very much for everything. You proved "united we win"
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grupak
08-25 02:54 PM
Sorry that the IO couldn't assign you a visa number.
Lessons learned:
(1) Keep Fedex delivery proof for receipt date in addition to I-485 notice
(2) Keep the memo concerning July fiasco
(3) Memo for AC 21 if it applies.
I am surprised that the IO didn't have the memo for the July fiasco.
Lessons learned:
(1) Keep Fedex delivery proof for receipt date in addition to I-485 notice
(2) Keep the memo concerning July fiasco
(3) Memo for AC 21 if it applies.
I am surprised that the IO didn't have the memo for the July fiasco.
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wellwishergc
12-19 02:53 PM
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pappu
12-19 01:49 PM
Dear Core Members, Can we bulk email to our members on the list for every contribution a mameber makes, that adds up to the motivation.
Thanks for all your Help!
Thank you but we are careful not to spam our users with messages. We encourage members to visit the forums.
Thanks for all your Help!
Thank you but we are careful not to spam our users with messages. We encourage members to visit the forums.
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gcisadawg
03-04 08:50 PM
On a positive note, the best that we can do is, learn from our surroundings. We can learn a lot from Republicans to understand what not to do.
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Kunju,
I think first you need to learn etiquette! I'm here to make sure you realize your potential!:D
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Kunju,
I think first you need to learn etiquette! I'm here to make sure you realize your potential!:D
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n2b
03-09 01:51 PM
Sent my $25 pledge as well!
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belmontboy
04-15 11:13 AM
Changing F1 to GC law to make it legal has as much chance as getting law change to not include dependents. I would rather support the latter then support F1 to GC law change
I do look beyond my own situation and thats why i support current spillover rules and filing 485 without current PD issue even though it does not help me directly in any way what soever and if fact is dterimental to my EB3 case.
Can you say the same ? C
Can you support an argument to give 50 k dv visa to badly retrogressed category irrespective of preference category?
Fact is You are the one who cannot see beyond your own selfish needs and you are accusing me of the same thing you are doing
As far as i know the whole MS F1 visa is a big scam and loophole to enter us and stay here when you are not supposed to and that is the loophole that needs to be closed first instesad of worrying about fruad porting and EB1 fraud. Closing thsi student GC loophole will clear up the whole EB retrogression mess
Yes, I support excluding dependents from quota.
If you look at IV's agenda, most of the items benefit EB as a whole. The idea is to reduce number of people being part of quota. If you think in these terms, you should not have any problem in supporting "Exclusion of STEM grads" from regular quota.
I support legal porting of EB3 to EB2 even though its detrimental to my own case. So I am not selfish like you call me :)
As for your stand on MS F1 visa, you remind me of "rkay". He too makes nonsensical statements like you. If there was an violation of law, USCIS would have known it and plugged the loophole. If you have found some "loophole" that USCIS doesnot know, let them know.
I do look beyond my own situation and thats why i support current spillover rules and filing 485 without current PD issue even though it does not help me directly in any way what soever and if fact is dterimental to my EB3 case.
Can you say the same ? C
Can you support an argument to give 50 k dv visa to badly retrogressed category irrespective of preference category?
Fact is You are the one who cannot see beyond your own selfish needs and you are accusing me of the same thing you are doing
As far as i know the whole MS F1 visa is a big scam and loophole to enter us and stay here when you are not supposed to and that is the loophole that needs to be closed first instesad of worrying about fruad porting and EB1 fraud. Closing thsi student GC loophole will clear up the whole EB retrogression mess
Yes, I support excluding dependents from quota.
If you look at IV's agenda, most of the items benefit EB as a whole. The idea is to reduce number of people being part of quota. If you think in these terms, you should not have any problem in supporting "Exclusion of STEM grads" from regular quota.
I support legal porting of EB3 to EB2 even though its detrimental to my own case. So I am not selfish like you call me :)
As for your stand on MS F1 visa, you remind me of "rkay". He too makes nonsensical statements like you. If there was an violation of law, USCIS would have known it and plugged the loophole. If you have found some "loophole" that USCIS doesnot know, let them know.
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syzygy
07-08 04:59 AM
This is one the latest articles which highlights America's racial discrimination policy as regards immigration.
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Please read and digg.
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WeldonSprings
07-10 12:16 AM
I would say for EB-2 India
In 2005- 2500
But I do not know how many would be EB-2 India in 2004 between Apr.-Dec.
I looked at the links you have provided and I'm still not sure where your "50,000 EB2 India Labors...." came from. These numbers do not seem trustworthy or reliable.
Here's data directly from the DOL ETA website.....
3/28/2005 to 10/28/2005 there were a total of 15973 Labor certifications approved - that includes EB1, 2, 3, 4 for all countries, and 3734 cases for Indian nationals in EB1, 2, 3, 4. Of course a part of EB1 and all of EB5 don't need labor certs.
If you download the database from the DOL website, apply filters for India, approved cases, then filter out all Level I in all non-managerial occupations, followed by non EB2 job descriptions - you end up with ~ 8 - 9% approvals for EB2-IN which is approx 1300 - 1400 primary applicants.
In my estimates, i removed most computer programmer level occupations as the USCIS has been very reluctant to approve EB2 for these cases - i could be wrong here.
As you see, it is IMPOSSIBLE for EB2 IN cases between 3/28/2005 to 10/28/2005 to be much more than 3800 (that is approx 3800 x 2 visas incl dep).
A total of nearly 50000 EB2 IN applicants (including dep) for 2004 and 2005 may be possible.
The massive retrogressions we are seeing is mainly because of the fact that only 15439 EB2 visas were issued in 2003, and 32532 i 2004 thanks to DOL backlogs and mis-interpretations of the law by DOS !!!! compare that with an average of 43,000 in most other years since the 1990s.
I'm pretty confident that your numbers are incorrect
In 2005- 2500
But I do not know how many would be EB-2 India in 2004 between Apr.-Dec.
I looked at the links you have provided and I'm still not sure where your "50,000 EB2 India Labors...." came from. These numbers do not seem trustworthy or reliable.
Here's data directly from the DOL ETA website.....
3/28/2005 to 10/28/2005 there were a total of 15973 Labor certifications approved - that includes EB1, 2, 3, 4 for all countries, and 3734 cases for Indian nationals in EB1, 2, 3, 4. Of course a part of EB1 and all of EB5 don't need labor certs.
If you download the database from the DOL website, apply filters for India, approved cases, then filter out all Level I in all non-managerial occupations, followed by non EB2 job descriptions - you end up with ~ 8 - 9% approvals for EB2-IN which is approx 1300 - 1400 primary applicants.
In my estimates, i removed most computer programmer level occupations as the USCIS has been very reluctant to approve EB2 for these cases - i could be wrong here.
As you see, it is IMPOSSIBLE for EB2 IN cases between 3/28/2005 to 10/28/2005 to be much more than 3800 (that is approx 3800 x 2 visas incl dep).
A total of nearly 50000 EB2 IN applicants (including dep) for 2004 and 2005 may be possible.
The massive retrogressions we are seeing is mainly because of the fact that only 15439 EB2 visas were issued in 2003, and 32532 i 2004 thanks to DOL backlogs and mis-interpretations of the law by DOS !!!! compare that with an average of 43,000 in most other years since the 1990s.
I'm pretty confident that your numbers are incorrect
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ragz4u
04-20 09:14 AM
Even during the recess, we were talking to the staff of a ton of senators. Most of the time the senators' staff are interested only if someone from 'their constituency' is also affected. We always say we have a ton of folks from each state, but nothing works like a real example.
For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.
Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.
As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.
We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).
At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.
But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....
For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.
Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.
As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.
We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).
At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.
But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....
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LostInGCProcess
02-25 11:52 AM
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�A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�
~ Lao Tzu (570-490 BC), Famous Inspirational quote by the Chinese Founder of Taoism.
Realizeit, This is a brilliant idea that you have put forth. If what you are proposing happens, boy-o-boy!!! lot of head aches and tension would go away for folks who have applied their I-485 and waiting for a long time. Just imagine if the status changes to "ADJUDICATED-WAITING FOR VISA NUMBER" it would be as good as getting the GC.
I totally support your effort.
Thanks for the great idea and I hope this proposal would move forward and not be a dead thread!!!
:)
�A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�
~ Lao Tzu (570-490 BC), Famous Inspirational quote by the Chinese Founder of Taoism.
Realizeit, This is a brilliant idea that you have put forth. If what you are proposing happens, boy-o-boy!!! lot of head aches and tension would go away for folks who have applied their I-485 and waiting for a long time. Just imagine if the status changes to "ADJUDICATED-WAITING FOR VISA NUMBER" it would be as good as getting the GC.
I totally support your effort.
Thanks for the great idea and I hope this proposal would move forward and not be a dead thread!!!
:)
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eb3_nepa
04-20 10:59 AM
This might be the wrong thread, but did the Philly Inquirer ad, generate more members at all to IV? Any kinda increase at all?
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waitnwatch
04-25 02:15 PM
I have started the process where my employer is working on the filing. Of course they keep reminding me that EB1 is retrogressed and so I cannot file concurrently. Sunil is right if you mean "actual filing" as the process having started. As for me I am dithering because once I file I will have to sit tight for the whole thing to end and right now there is no end in sight. If I change jobs after filing I will have to go through this whole pain again! Hope this clarifies the situation. Let me know if I can be of any help.
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eb3retro
12-18 07:06 PM
can we make this thread a sticky on the top..
vin13
02-25 08:29 AM
This is a brilliant idea. We are not asking a lot here. Even if they want to call it Pre-adjudicated, It should be fine.
Good Job, 'Realzeit'
Good Job, 'Realzeit'
Gravitation
07-06 08:56 PM
Hey Gravitation, according to the poll "How many sent the flowers" you have not sent the flowers. Please either send the flowers or update the poll. Just keeping track :)
I had initially polled No. Then I changed my mind about sending flowers. Order number: FEJ345413
I just tried to change my vote, it wouldn't let me.
I had initially polled No. Then I changed my mind about sending flowers. Order number: FEJ345413
I just tried to change my vote, it wouldn't let me.
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