realizeit
02-25 01:50 AM
�A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�
~ Lao Tzu (570-490 BC), Famous Inspirational quote by the Chinese Founder of Taoism.
Recently all of us in the IV community were thinking and worrying about what the future holds for skilled immigrants in this country. Day by day things are getting tougher! All of us in IV community (including the leadership) have different ideas about how to approach the problem. Under the IV leadership, we have a set of declared priorities and our lobbyists and community are working for those. Even when we work for those stated goals and priorities, we have to reevaluate what is feasible in the changing environment.
In this increased protectionist environment, Re-Capture, Country Cap Elimination and Immigrant Visa increase seems difficult if not impossible. So, I would like to propose a SMALL STEP, which would provide us HUGE BENEFITS and at the same time satisfy all stakeholders (including anti-immigrant community) as this is the least controversial method.
Some of us may say that this won�t work. Some of us support a big-bang theory. Some others argue for the already stated goals and priorities from the IV leadership team. I agree with all these groups of our brethren, but at the same time, I urge each and every member of our community to give a serious consideration of this proposal before shooting it down.
Please do not use this thread to point fingers at one another. Always remember, when you point fingers at someone, three of your fingers are pointing towards you and one stays neutral. Please try to avoid statements like the following in your reply to this post to encourage serious and productive discussion:
�Why didn�t you update your profile with all information?�
�What have you done so far for the community?�
�Did you participate in these so and so initiatives of IV?�
�You are a line cutter who used substitution�
Etc etc etc�the list goes on.
We have far more things that unite all of us than the few things that divide us. So, let us focus only those things that unite all of us. If we are united, we can easily solve all our differences. As AR Rahman said, always we have the option of choosing love over hate.
PROPOSAL
Our main concern with respect to GC journey is the UNCERTAINITY! I am sure all of us worried at least one time �What happens if my 485 gets denied after all these years of waiting?� Many of us here are expecting a GC wait time of 2-12 years. So, a denial at the end would be little bit disheartening.
The normal processing time of a 485 application ranges from 4 months to 12 months. For all the retrogressed countries, this would be 2-12 years. All of us, who are in the Adjustment of Status category, are legally allowed to stay and work here in the US. So, in no way we are additional burden to the country. So, all the shackles on the GC applicant and family during the years of retrogression period are not beneficial to anyone in this country and it is not protecting anyone�s job. These shackles just inflict pain to the GC applicant and family � that's all - nobody is benefitting from this!
So, if we can work to obtain Adjudication of all I-485s irrespective of whether the country is retrogressed or not � we have a solution. As per the INS rules, an immigrant VISA cannot be allocated outside the numerical limit. If the country is not under retrogression, the applicant will get his GC. If the applicant�s country is a retrogressed one, instead of obtaining the Green Card, I-485 processing-status could be changed to a new one such as �Adjudicated � Pending Visa Allocation� (meaning: Adjudication completed, Visa allocation pending). So, in essence, when the VISA numbers are available, then only the person will get Green Card. But at the same time, the applicant and family can feel the relief � No need to worry about RFE, NOID, MTR etc, because the 485 is already approved and it is in a Pending Visa Allocation status. So, in the case of all these retrogressed countries, the actual allocation of Green Card may take 2-12 years time depending on the availability. This option will go well with the protectionists.
If the status of the 485 application is �Adjudicated � Pending Visa Allocation� and the applicant�s country is a retrogressed one, S/he should be eligible to obtain 3, 4 or 5 year EADs with travel benefits associated. Also, the applicant should be able to take any job after 1 year of the status change date of the status �Adjudicated � Pending Visa Allocation�.
I believe the above proposal is a small step in the eyes of the protectionists where as it is a big leap for all retrogressed country applicants. We may be able to achieve this using administrative fix or an action from the Executing branch, as this won�t change the annual GC quota of 140000. Apart from this, this will encourage all those skilled immigrants to invest in American economy within 1-2 years of filing AOS application. At present most of us are sending our money to our home countries as our situation is so uncertain. This effort will definitely help the ailing economy and will serve as a boost to the housing market.
Whom should we approach to get this done?
Ans: Hillary � Yes Hillary Clinton. She is the number 1 friend of people from China and India, who is in the current administration. Her department is also in charge of the 140K Visa numbers, Travel related visas etc. If we can get support from Compete America, prominent members of Indian and Chinese communities in US, Ambassadors of China and India to US and approach Hillary, we will be successful. Hillary may be very much pleased to start an initiative to achieve this, as she has a chance to influence 700K+ Indians and Chinese immigrants in US, in a very positive way. At the same time, politically this won�t create much problem � Status quo will remain the same � even after such an administrative fix. There is no net addition of immigrants to this country.
With Hillary�s support, if we approach Janet Napolitano, we may have a solution.
Remember: �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�
So, once we obtain this admin fix (first step), then we will work to obtain the Allocation of GC issue for all those folks who are waiting to get the GC allocated.
Every progress starts from a dream. So, if someone would like to call this a dream, please feel free to!
~ Lao Tzu (570-490 BC), Famous Inspirational quote by the Chinese Founder of Taoism.
Recently all of us in the IV community were thinking and worrying about what the future holds for skilled immigrants in this country. Day by day things are getting tougher! All of us in IV community (including the leadership) have different ideas about how to approach the problem. Under the IV leadership, we have a set of declared priorities and our lobbyists and community are working for those. Even when we work for those stated goals and priorities, we have to reevaluate what is feasible in the changing environment.
In this increased protectionist environment, Re-Capture, Country Cap Elimination and Immigrant Visa increase seems difficult if not impossible. So, I would like to propose a SMALL STEP, which would provide us HUGE BENEFITS and at the same time satisfy all stakeholders (including anti-immigrant community) as this is the least controversial method.
Some of us may say that this won�t work. Some of us support a big-bang theory. Some others argue for the already stated goals and priorities from the IV leadership team. I agree with all these groups of our brethren, but at the same time, I urge each and every member of our community to give a serious consideration of this proposal before shooting it down.
Please do not use this thread to point fingers at one another. Always remember, when you point fingers at someone, three of your fingers are pointing towards you and one stays neutral. Please try to avoid statements like the following in your reply to this post to encourage serious and productive discussion:
�Why didn�t you update your profile with all information?�
�What have you done so far for the community?�
�Did you participate in these so and so initiatives of IV?�
�You are a line cutter who used substitution�
Etc etc etc�the list goes on.
We have far more things that unite all of us than the few things that divide us. So, let us focus only those things that unite all of us. If we are united, we can easily solve all our differences. As AR Rahman said, always we have the option of choosing love over hate.
PROPOSAL
Our main concern with respect to GC journey is the UNCERTAINITY! I am sure all of us worried at least one time �What happens if my 485 gets denied after all these years of waiting?� Many of us here are expecting a GC wait time of 2-12 years. So, a denial at the end would be little bit disheartening.
The normal processing time of a 485 application ranges from 4 months to 12 months. For all the retrogressed countries, this would be 2-12 years. All of us, who are in the Adjustment of Status category, are legally allowed to stay and work here in the US. So, in no way we are additional burden to the country. So, all the shackles on the GC applicant and family during the years of retrogression period are not beneficial to anyone in this country and it is not protecting anyone�s job. These shackles just inflict pain to the GC applicant and family � that's all - nobody is benefitting from this!
So, if we can work to obtain Adjudication of all I-485s irrespective of whether the country is retrogressed or not � we have a solution. As per the INS rules, an immigrant VISA cannot be allocated outside the numerical limit. If the country is not under retrogression, the applicant will get his GC. If the applicant�s country is a retrogressed one, instead of obtaining the Green Card, I-485 processing-status could be changed to a new one such as �Adjudicated � Pending Visa Allocation� (meaning: Adjudication completed, Visa allocation pending). So, in essence, when the VISA numbers are available, then only the person will get Green Card. But at the same time, the applicant and family can feel the relief � No need to worry about RFE, NOID, MTR etc, because the 485 is already approved and it is in a Pending Visa Allocation status. So, in the case of all these retrogressed countries, the actual allocation of Green Card may take 2-12 years time depending on the availability. This option will go well with the protectionists.
If the status of the 485 application is �Adjudicated � Pending Visa Allocation� and the applicant�s country is a retrogressed one, S/he should be eligible to obtain 3, 4 or 5 year EADs with travel benefits associated. Also, the applicant should be able to take any job after 1 year of the status change date of the status �Adjudicated � Pending Visa Allocation�.
I believe the above proposal is a small step in the eyes of the protectionists where as it is a big leap for all retrogressed country applicants. We may be able to achieve this using administrative fix or an action from the Executing branch, as this won�t change the annual GC quota of 140000. Apart from this, this will encourage all those skilled immigrants to invest in American economy within 1-2 years of filing AOS application. At present most of us are sending our money to our home countries as our situation is so uncertain. This effort will definitely help the ailing economy and will serve as a boost to the housing market.
Whom should we approach to get this done?
Ans: Hillary � Yes Hillary Clinton. She is the number 1 friend of people from China and India, who is in the current administration. Her department is also in charge of the 140K Visa numbers, Travel related visas etc. If we can get support from Compete America, prominent members of Indian and Chinese communities in US, Ambassadors of China and India to US and approach Hillary, we will be successful. Hillary may be very much pleased to start an initiative to achieve this, as she has a chance to influence 700K+ Indians and Chinese immigrants in US, in a very positive way. At the same time, politically this won�t create much problem � Status quo will remain the same � even after such an administrative fix. There is no net addition of immigrants to this country.
With Hillary�s support, if we approach Janet Napolitano, we may have a solution.
Remember: �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�
So, once we obtain this admin fix (first step), then we will work to obtain the Allocation of GC issue for all those folks who are waiting to get the GC allocated.
Every progress starts from a dream. So, if someone would like to call this a dream, please feel free to!
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anilnag
03-09 03:12 PM
Just went thru my contribution of $50 (doubled 25 because the goal is also doubled now) and got confirmation from IV admin.
Subscription Number - S-2GR22479G79544410
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redds777
06-16 12:11 PM
Thank you New horizon .
That is the least i could do for you guys . lets keep in touch and fight for our cause.
Thanks
Redds777
I was one of the guys from MI that redds777 hosted. I must say I can't thank enough for the hospitality he and his family had shown us.
Also I know a couple of other DC members who hosted outside folks. Thanks to them also.
That is the least i could do for you guys . lets keep in touch and fight for our cause.
Thanks
Redds777
I was one of the guys from MI that redds777 hosted. I must say I can't thank enough for the hospitality he and his family had shown us.
Also I know a couple of other DC members who hosted outside folks. Thanks to them also.
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03-06 03:50 PM
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03-07 02:32 AM
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Jitamitra
09-10 06:55 PM
I am not trying to question the dedication of the folks here, but I have not see any plans or goals set for this year.Is this because of election year?
The site has become one more forum site to discuss personal issues and to vent out our immigration frustrations.We seem to be losing momentum on the larger effort of Visa Recapture or even looking forward for any new bills? Well even if we consider that there would be a change in white house, doesnt the senate and house still be intact with the members.
Does IV work with CompeteAmerica or any Lobbying group which could help us with direction?
Just my thoughts for the day.
The site has become one more forum site to discuss personal issues and to vent out our immigration frustrations.We seem to be losing momentum on the larger effort of Visa Recapture or even looking forward for any new bills? Well even if we consider that there would be a change in white house, doesnt the senate and house still be intact with the members.
Does IV work with CompeteAmerica or any Lobbying group which could help us with direction?
Just my thoughts for the day.
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chanduy9
07-03 02:20 PM
How many sending flowers on JULY 10TH....give the order# too if you can..
Let us call it as FLOWER DAY!!
Order # FNM1314828 from ftd
Here is the address:
Select Occasion: "Sympathy"
Edited by Moderator:
Quote:
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
[ first-name last-name ] - An employment based immigrant.
Delivery location type is Business, US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address:
Emilio T. Gonzalez
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
Let us call it as FLOWER DAY!!
Order # FNM1314828 from ftd
Here is the address:
Select Occasion: "Sympathy"
Edited by Moderator:
Quote:
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
[ first-name last-name ] - An employment based immigrant.
Delivery location type is Business, US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address:
Emilio T. Gonzalez
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
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kpchal2
08-21 10:37 AM
hi jsb
what makes you state with confidance that the preadjudicated cases will be evaluated. can you please explain the basis of your statement. both my case and my wife's case has been pre-adjudicated and i am waiting for my green card. so do you think we should expect our green card some time next month without any additional followup. i would hate to see my case being sidetracked when some one else with pd and rd much beyond mine is serviced. any thoughts and insights. not trying to offend anyone. just trying to get some information.
thanks
what makes you state with confidance that the preadjudicated cases will be evaluated. can you please explain the basis of your statement. both my case and my wife's case has been pre-adjudicated and i am waiting for my green card. so do you think we should expect our green card some time next month without any additional followup. i would hate to see my case being sidetracked when some one else with pd and rd much beyond mine is serviced. any thoughts and insights. not trying to offend anyone. just trying to get some information.
thanks
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chanduv23
11-11 05:30 PM
For the love of God, there are things that you go and post on the Internet to get people's opinion and there are things that you don't! Unlike some others here, I don't want to too judgmental (something we, as a people, excel at) as everyones situation and experiences in life are different. But here is what you need to do ASAP. I mean right now and today: get out of your office if you have to but go out and do it right now.
1. Go talk to an immigrant attorney immediately. You need to assess your liabilities in this situation. If you are at fault, you need to improvise a defense strategy and IMMIGRATION VOICE IS NOT THE FORUM FOR THIS!!!!
2. Immediately talk to a criminal defense attorney. The fact that you know about child abuse and have not reported it yet is a SERIOUS, SERIOUS, SERIOUS,....., SERIOUS issue. It varies from state to state but not reporting child abuse may or may not be a crime IF you an establish that you took immediate steps to protect the child from the abuser. Again, this depends on how zealous the prosecutor and child protection services are.
Depending on how your attorney advises you, proceed to inform the authorities.
Trust me man, I have done projects with state and county level agencies and this is serious stuff and you need to act now to get in the driving seat. Inaction is NOT an option.
Best of luck and may God protect every child out there.
-Better_Days
Well said. the person needs to know his liabilities. He has to go to proper authorities. IV forum is not the place.
This person can help the community by posting warnings on IV and other blogs including sulekha or other places - cn also post the video on internet and share it , if he wishes to
1. Go talk to an immigrant attorney immediately. You need to assess your liabilities in this situation. If you are at fault, you need to improvise a defense strategy and IMMIGRATION VOICE IS NOT THE FORUM FOR THIS!!!!
2. Immediately talk to a criminal defense attorney. The fact that you know about child abuse and have not reported it yet is a SERIOUS, SERIOUS, SERIOUS,....., SERIOUS issue. It varies from state to state but not reporting child abuse may or may not be a crime IF you an establish that you took immediate steps to protect the child from the abuser. Again, this depends on how zealous the prosecutor and child protection services are.
Depending on how your attorney advises you, proceed to inform the authorities.
Trust me man, I have done projects with state and county level agencies and this is serious stuff and you need to act now to get in the driving seat. Inaction is NOT an option.
Best of luck and may God protect every child out there.
-Better_Days
Well said. the person needs to know his liabilities. He has to go to proper authorities. IV forum is not the place.
This person can help the community by posting warnings on IV and other blogs including sulekha or other places - cn also post the video on internet and share it , if he wishes to
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CantLeaveAmerica
07-17 08:42 PM
In this country where every individual/ family feels lonely and isolated many a time, IV has always been there as our pillar of strength in times of trouble..Hats off to the IV team and its family of members!!
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chanduy9
07-03 02:20 PM
How many sending flowers on JULY 10TH....give the order# too if you can..
Let us call it as FLOWER DAY!!
Order # FNM1314828 from ftd
Here is the address:
Select Occasion: "Sympathy"
Edited by Moderator:
Quote:
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
[ first-name last-name ] - An employment based immigrant.
Delivery location type is Business, US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address:
Emilio T. Gonzalez
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
Let us call it as FLOWER DAY!!
Order # FNM1314828 from ftd
Here is the address:
Select Occasion: "Sympathy"
Edited by Moderator:
Quote:
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
[ first-name last-name ] - An employment based immigrant.
Delivery location type is Business, US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address:
Emilio T. Gonzalez
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
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gcdesirer
08-20 11:05 AM
I saw a couple of cases from 2003 updating their status yesterday in EB2 India Texas..... in
Just sharing info...
I was trying to figure out all these greens and reds... How does one get them.... and the mouse on the green squares to the right say stuff like "distinguished road", "Aura", "jewel on the rough" etc... what does this mean?
And the circular green light next to name means "I am online now" right???
Just sharing info...
I was trying to figure out all these greens and reds... How does one get them.... and the mouse on the green squares to the right say stuff like "distinguished road", "Aura", "jewel on the rough" etc... what does this mean?
And the circular green light next to name means "I am online now" right???
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07-17 09:22 PM
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08-11 12:28 PM
I think by this time next year..we all will have greencard... have fun.
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coolmanasip
08-25 02:47 PM
Well atleast you know, you are hours or days away from approval.....
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Gravitation
02-02 06:22 PM
According to a specialist on immigration forums "Mr UnitedNations" the unused visas are directly being used for EB3 ROW , I am not how he knows that but maybe thats what is happening.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
This information was there on a visa bulletin. This is not a guess but a confirmed fact.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
This information was there on a visa bulletin. This is not a guess but a confirmed fact.
msp1976
02-04 01:34 PM
Of course he is very informative, however he is very biased and having wrong openion that EB3 India has stolen EB3_ROW number in previous years as he belongs to ROW. He wrongly assumes that till EB3-ROW becomes current EB2 & EB3-India will not see any movement. He thinks no one knows the rules, laws ect..and he is only one knows everything. The actual fact is most peoples have been doing research on retrogression like him last two years and not having enough time to reply his post. To fuel his openion DOS is violating the section 202 of INA and no one cares about this including IV core team.
If you want to know true color of Unitednation visit this site.
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=225197&page=3&pp=15&highlight=outlook
If you want to know how unused visanumbers suppose to work as per the law, visit this site.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2659&highlight=century
Dear longq....
You should consider gathering a few more EB2 India guys and have a crack at suing USCIS for violating the law...Unfortunately I am EB3 India and this suing does not help me...
You can ask for GCs for all members of your law suits...But USCIS would fight you hard for sure...
IV is collective organization...IV's solution would be to get numbers increased for everyone...Otherwise we would again have a fight bet EB2 and EB3 link the one we had between guys who want the 485 without PD and those who oppose it...
If you want to know true color of Unitednation visit this site.
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=225197&page=3&pp=15&highlight=outlook
If you want to know how unused visanumbers suppose to work as per the law, visit this site.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2659&highlight=century
Dear longq....
You should consider gathering a few more EB2 India guys and have a crack at suing USCIS for violating the law...Unfortunately I am EB3 India and this suing does not help me...
You can ask for GCs for all members of your law suits...But USCIS would fight you hard for sure...
IV is collective organization...IV's solution would be to get numbers increased for everyone...Otherwise we would again have a fight bet EB2 and EB3 link the one we had between guys who want the 485 without PD and those who oppose it...
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