fasterthanlight�
05-30 11:14 PM
Does the deadline have to be so farking close!?
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nitinboston
05-14 11:04 AM
bringing bk the discussion to more serious point. We can all agree that on the surface immigration system here is seems unfair towards Indian, Chinese and Mexicans. Whats the reason behind it? why only three countries which suffers from long waits. Its demand and supply. If there were no country caps, all the visa's will be absorbed by these three countries. Even though it has cost me time and money, i think its the right policy. for a moment imagine there was no country limit, can you imagine for few years to come immigration will be from only these three countries. i think its only fair to limit how many people can come from one specific country.
and one more point, we are never going to get treated with respect and equality, just get used to it. every American knows we left our country to come to his. he is always gonna look down upon us. Immigrants are never treated with love, respect and dignity, no matter which country they go to. Case in point, Bangladeshi and Nepali migrant workers in India. We treat them like dirt back home, so discrimination against immigrants is part of immigration process. hopefully our ABCD offspring's will face less of it :)
and one more point, we are never going to get treated with respect and equality, just get used to it. every American knows we left our country to come to his. he is always gonna look down upon us. Immigrants are never treated with love, respect and dignity, no matter which country they go to. Case in point, Bangladeshi and Nepali migrant workers in India. We treat them like dirt back home, so discrimination against immigrants is part of immigration process. hopefully our ABCD offspring's will face less of it :)
thomachan72
05-26 03:15 PM
(b) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants- Section 201(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(d)) is amended to read as follows:
`(d) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants-
`(1) IN GENERAL- The worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under this subsection for a fiscal year is equal to the sum of--
`(A) 140,000;
`(B) the number computed under paragraph (2); and
`(C) the number computed under paragraph (3).
`(2) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR- The number computed under this paragraph for a fiscal year is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the worldwide level of employment-based immigrant visas established for the previous fiscal year; and
`(B) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during the previous fiscal year.
`(3) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM FISCAL YEARS 1992 THROUGH 2007- The number computed under this paragraph is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the difference, if any, between--
`(i) the sum of the worldwide levels of employment-based immigrant visas established for each of fiscal years 1992 through 2007; and
`(ii) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during such fiscal years; and
`(B) the number of unused visas from fiscal years 1992 through 2007 that were issued after fiscal year 2007 under section 203(b), subject to this subsection.'.
(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on the date which is 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.
Looks like EB visas are recaptured and fed into EB pool.
Once again pardon me for my ignorance. Is this bill currently active in the senate? or is it the bill introduced last time that you guys are talking about. If it is reintroduced and the substance is as mentioned in the above post, why are we not actively supporting this? If it is infact true IV community should be the one supporting it the most. Senior members please comment.
`(d) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants-
`(1) IN GENERAL- The worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under this subsection for a fiscal year is equal to the sum of--
`(A) 140,000;
`(B) the number computed under paragraph (2); and
`(C) the number computed under paragraph (3).
`(2) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR- The number computed under this paragraph for a fiscal year is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the worldwide level of employment-based immigrant visas established for the previous fiscal year; and
`(B) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during the previous fiscal year.
`(3) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM FISCAL YEARS 1992 THROUGH 2007- The number computed under this paragraph is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the difference, if any, between--
`(i) the sum of the worldwide levels of employment-based immigrant visas established for each of fiscal years 1992 through 2007; and
`(ii) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during such fiscal years; and
`(B) the number of unused visas from fiscal years 1992 through 2007 that were issued after fiscal year 2007 under section 203(b), subject to this subsection.'.
(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on the date which is 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.
Looks like EB visas are recaptured and fed into EB pool.
Once again pardon me for my ignorance. Is this bill currently active in the senate? or is it the bill introduced last time that you guys are talking about. If it is reintroduced and the substance is as mentioned in the above post, why are we not actively supporting this? If it is infact true IV community should be the one supporting it the most. Senior members please comment.
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mpadapa
09-17 10:57 AM
The session hasn't started yet. There is a delay since the House is in session. Once the voting on the bill that is currently discussed in the House is over, probably then they will start the meeting..
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saravanaraj.sathya
07-13 09:39 PM
I think it is a great move. I would have really loved to join but I live far from san jose. Good luck guys!!
I hope all the major news channels like CNN, NBC, HNN will cover this.
I hope all the major news channels like CNN, NBC, HNN will cover this.
Nil
06-12 04:52 PM
There are several of us who have advanced degrees and yet have been put under EB3. Now, a lot of them can move on to a more responsible role but held captive by the immigration situation.
Just a thought - if the STEM degree holders can be exempt, then it will take some weight off the entire system.
Just a thought - if the STEM degree holders can be exempt, then it will take some weight off the entire system.
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Maverick1
11-09 03:54 PM
I know it has been discussed a couple of times but more I read about the keeping H1 status/Using EAD &AP the more confused I get. The problem stems from the fact that we want to use the goodies offered by AOS (EAD and AP) but concerned what happens to H1 status. Don't want to get H1 stamping but want to use H1 status.
I talked to my lawyer and she prefers that I get H1 stamping when I go abroad and keep H1 as long as possible.
We have been longing for a while to apply for AOS so that it frees us from H1B shackles and gives us freedom to work. But now that most of us got the EAD, most people don't want to use it (except perhaps the dependents who can now work)
I want to play the devil's advocate for a min and say why not dump H1 and go with EAD/AP route.
One of the advantages people cite with maintaining H1 status is that if some thing goes wrong with I485 , you can still stay here as long as H1 is valid. Another advantage is you don't need to renew EAD/AP every year (Cost) because H1 is given for 3 years (If retrogressed or have H1 time left).
1) But if my I140 is approved and I am working with a good company and the GC is applied in good faith and have good lawyers working on it, what are the chances of rejection ?
2) What is the appetite to start the GC all over by staying on H1 in case this GC is denied after 4-5 years(Likely for most). Ability to challenge the denial of course is different story.
3) I believe most people who got EAD/AP now will continue to extend them just in case (to be safe). So the cost benefit is out of the window. And if the company pays for all the expenses for EAD/AP renewals should I care to keep the H1 status from the cost point of view.
4) If I am willing to use AC21 and change the employer, I believe using EAD gives me more bargaining power than using the H1 because there are more options (Some companied don't do H1) and there is less work for the company (No need to file for H1 transfer)
5) On other hand if I dump H1 status , I can work part time using EAD or start my own business etc.
I see that it is a unanimous opinion that keeping the H1 is a good idea (Including my lawyer suggestion).
I intention here is not to make a statement one way or the other. As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to play devils advocate and challenge some of the perceived benefits of keeping H1 and provoke some responses so that I know I am NOT missing the benefits of H1 that other people see.
Your 2 cents please !!!!
I talked to my lawyer and she prefers that I get H1 stamping when I go abroad and keep H1 as long as possible.
We have been longing for a while to apply for AOS so that it frees us from H1B shackles and gives us freedom to work. But now that most of us got the EAD, most people don't want to use it (except perhaps the dependents who can now work)
I want to play the devil's advocate for a min and say why not dump H1 and go with EAD/AP route.
One of the advantages people cite with maintaining H1 status is that if some thing goes wrong with I485 , you can still stay here as long as H1 is valid. Another advantage is you don't need to renew EAD/AP every year (Cost) because H1 is given for 3 years (If retrogressed or have H1 time left).
1) But if my I140 is approved and I am working with a good company and the GC is applied in good faith and have good lawyers working on it, what are the chances of rejection ?
2) What is the appetite to start the GC all over by staying on H1 in case this GC is denied after 4-5 years(Likely for most). Ability to challenge the denial of course is different story.
3) I believe most people who got EAD/AP now will continue to extend them just in case (to be safe). So the cost benefit is out of the window. And if the company pays for all the expenses for EAD/AP renewals should I care to keep the H1 status from the cost point of view.
4) If I am willing to use AC21 and change the employer, I believe using EAD gives me more bargaining power than using the H1 because there are more options (Some companied don't do H1) and there is less work for the company (No need to file for H1 transfer)
5) On other hand if I dump H1 status , I can work part time using EAD or start my own business etc.
I see that it is a unanimous opinion that keeping the H1 is a good idea (Including my lawyer suggestion).
I intention here is not to make a statement one way or the other. As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to play devils advocate and challenge some of the perceived benefits of keeping H1 and provoke some responses so that I know I am NOT missing the benefits of H1 that other people see.
Your 2 cents please !!!!
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qplearn
11-15 03:08 PM
People will find list of US companies supporting SKILL bill and also trash talk from many citizens. Hope you will enjoy it. Do read the comments, that is where the fun is.
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009781.html
Boy, almost everyone here feels the foreigners are not wanted. Reminds me of how I used to told by "friendly" (bhadralok) folks in Calcutta's (now Kolkata) buses : Go back to your own "desh"! You come here and take our jobs. At that time it meant your Dad has taken our jobs. Nothing I could do then,and nothing we can do now. Just ignore these folks. Chances are they are the laziest people to be found who blame everyone but themselves for failure.
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009781.html
Boy, almost everyone here feels the foreigners are not wanted. Reminds me of how I used to told by "friendly" (bhadralok) folks in Calcutta's (now Kolkata) buses : Go back to your own "desh"! You come here and take our jobs. At that time it meant your Dad has taken our jobs. Nothing I could do then,and nothing we can do now. Just ignore these folks. Chances are they are the laziest people to be found who blame everyone but themselves for failure.
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qplearn
11-16 11:54 AM
Yes amitjoey. thanks a lot for that help. I wish more people participated in it. infact if more members can continue to do it today it will be very helpful. yesterday there were at least 3 mails from reporters expressing interest in us. This was because a few people wrote to them about IV and requested them to do a followup article abut us. I had found about 72 articles yesterday morning and we had more than 50 potential reporters to contact.It is not easy to get press coverage and this is one opportunity where we can captitalize on the venture captitalist story (no pun intentended).
Can we know names of these reporters who wanted to know about us? Also, is there any update on what QGA is doing on getting the word out about IV to the lawmakers? In her response to me, Clinton did not appear to indicate any knowledge of the severity of the problem that legal immigrants are facing due to retrogression.
Can we know names of these reporters who wanted to know about us? Also, is there any update on what QGA is doing on getting the word out about IV to the lawmakers? In her response to me, Clinton did not appear to indicate any knowledge of the severity of the problem that legal immigrants are facing due to retrogression.
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jetflyer
06-13 04:23 PM
EB3 I is still very unfortunate... I guess this is how the melting pot works... correct me if I am wrong.
Out of 140K Visas 7%= 9800 is assigned to India (All Categories)
Out of 9800 - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 :(
From over all left over of 140K - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 (all other countries) - Left over (EB3 China) - Left over to (EB3 India) :(
EB3 India is lowest on the FOOD Chain!!!
EB3 India is not unlucky but thats the default category for any one to apply when they or job doesn't let them go for Eb1/2.
So the obvious reason is:
when we have brand new lot of 85K H1s most of them apply for Eb3, and big chuck is Indian (no 7% cap here), but regardless of category, if 85k applies for GC, with one dependent it counts 130k.
And for GC allocation we have country cap which is ONLY 7% when we have 70% applicants. Do the math, 85000*.7*2= 119000 applicants for GC from India each year and they are entitled for 140000*.07=9800 and now lets say with all favors from ROW and EB1 we got double say about 20,000 still there is a back log of about 100K each year.
Thats assuming everybody applies for GC out of 85K H1 stock.
Based on this I don't see EB3 to become FIFO or backlogless because the system is not balanced,
# of ppl coming on H1 each year * xfactor = #of GC given to EB each year
Out of 140K Visas 7%= 9800 is assigned to India (All Categories)
Out of 9800 - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 :(
From over all left over of 140K - First EB1 then left over EB2 and Then leftover to EB3 (all other countries) - Left over (EB3 China) - Left over to (EB3 India) :(
EB3 India is lowest on the FOOD Chain!!!
EB3 India is not unlucky but thats the default category for any one to apply when they or job doesn't let them go for Eb1/2.
So the obvious reason is:
when we have brand new lot of 85K H1s most of them apply for Eb3, and big chuck is Indian (no 7% cap here), but regardless of category, if 85k applies for GC, with one dependent it counts 130k.
And for GC allocation we have country cap which is ONLY 7% when we have 70% applicants. Do the math, 85000*.7*2= 119000 applicants for GC from India each year and they are entitled for 140000*.07=9800 and now lets say with all favors from ROW and EB1 we got double say about 20,000 still there is a back log of about 100K each year.
Thats assuming everybody applies for GC out of 85K H1 stock.
Based on this I don't see EB3 to become FIFO or backlogless because the system is not balanced,
# of ppl coming on H1 each year * xfactor = #of GC given to EB each year
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snathan
03-29 04:32 PM
If you really want to hit him hard call ICE as well and let them know. If there are similar testimonials from several employees, he is done
If he is calling ICE...only the employees are going to get affected. As the employer is already on GC or USC, he will be slapped with fine. Nothing else. So the best option is DOL and not the ICE.
If he is calling ICE...only the employees are going to get affected. As the employer is already on GC or USC, he will be slapped with fine. Nothing else. So the best option is DOL and not the ICE.
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06-11 02:57 AM
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longq
02-11 05:17 PM
By doing what you are suggesting
c) you only benefit EB-2 India/China (at the expense of EB-3 ROW)
So, you make no difference whatsoever to huge number of EB-applicants (b), and you benefit (c) at the expense of (a).
I hope you see that this is not a good solution for the majority of EB-applicants. With this kind of cannibalization, the only people who have any incentive to stay with IV would be EB-2 India/China.
We have to work to increase the size of the pie here, and not engage in a zero sum game.
This is completly wrong statement. Actually, it is otherway. The EB3-ROW is currently enjoying at the expense of EB2-India and China. It is enjoying not only in this year. It is happening since 2005. If you have doubt, please visit DOS website and anayze the statistics right from 1999 to 2005. Furthermore, all the AC21 numbers (about 150,000 unused visas) that was captured in previous years (1999-2001) that came from unused EB2 and EB1 numbers. Theoritcally, these numbers should have been used to reduce backlog in EB2 first, then it should go to EB3. Since no one cared about this, EB3-ROW was free riding in EB2 numbers despite heavy demand in EB2.
Everyone knows that EB3 is heavily retrogressed compare to EB2. No doubt about that. The only solution for this is to increse the numbers. Everyone is working hard. However, it does not mean that one should ignore how DOS/USCIS mis-interpertinng the law and doing harm to EB2 Indians and Chinese. No one here is to sacrifice for EB3-ROW. Fighting to eliminate retrogression and understaing the correct interpretation of law and rule is totally two different issues. Please do not confuse between those.
c) you only benefit EB-2 India/China (at the expense of EB-3 ROW)
So, you make no difference whatsoever to huge number of EB-applicants (b), and you benefit (c) at the expense of (a).
I hope you see that this is not a good solution for the majority of EB-applicants. With this kind of cannibalization, the only people who have any incentive to stay with IV would be EB-2 India/China.
We have to work to increase the size of the pie here, and not engage in a zero sum game.
This is completly wrong statement. Actually, it is otherway. The EB3-ROW is currently enjoying at the expense of EB2-India and China. It is enjoying not only in this year. It is happening since 2005. If you have doubt, please visit DOS website and anayze the statistics right from 1999 to 2005. Furthermore, all the AC21 numbers (about 150,000 unused visas) that was captured in previous years (1999-2001) that came from unused EB2 and EB1 numbers. Theoritcally, these numbers should have been used to reduce backlog in EB2 first, then it should go to EB3. Since no one cared about this, EB3-ROW was free riding in EB2 numbers despite heavy demand in EB2.
Everyone knows that EB3 is heavily retrogressed compare to EB2. No doubt about that. The only solution for this is to increse the numbers. Everyone is working hard. However, it does not mean that one should ignore how DOS/USCIS mis-interpertinng the law and doing harm to EB2 Indians and Chinese. No one here is to sacrifice for EB3-ROW. Fighting to eliminate retrogression and understaing the correct interpretation of law and rule is totally two different issues. Please do not confuse between those.
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qasleuth
03-11 11:51 AM
If you treat the forums as your workplace then it will be better for all of us. No discussions on politics and religion. Period. Just be professional in your replies and you don't have to respond to each and every post. If you do not like it then do not respond. This is not family that you need to correct/straighten every person.
Let it go y'all. Peace.
Let it go y'all. Peace.
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jsb
11-26 02:31 PM
Aah_GC,
If you do not intend to use EAD/AP, there is no need to even apply for or renew it. You can apply it anytime when AOS is pending. What is the new annual fee for EAD and AP?
If you do not intend to use EAD/AP, there is no need to even apply for or renew it. You can apply it anytime when AOS is pending. What is the new annual fee for EAD and AP?
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mpadapa
09-17 11:05 AM
The lawmakers have been working hard, they just passed the energy bill late last night. Give them a break..
The meeting won't start until the House session is over, they are currently voting on a bill in the House
The proceedings have not started yet. I see people moving in and out.
Reminds me of the Govt Offices in India. Doesnt look much different here !!!
And they are probably gonna take a break at 12 for lunch .. lets c!!!
The meeting won't start until the House session is over, they are currently voting on a bill in the House
The proceedings have not started yet. I see people moving in and out.
Reminds me of the Govt Offices in India. Doesnt look much different here !!!
And they are probably gonna take a break at 12 for lunch .. lets c!!!
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vsrinir
09-17 10:43 AM
WE ARE ALSO IN HUNGRY SINCE YEARS!!!!!!
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TeddyKoochu
04-19 09:42 AM
jimytomy many congratulations on your well deserved GC.
ArkBird
10-07 07:12 PM
The only housing market which doesn't show any sign of correction is Mumbai, as the builders have more Dubai, 'Bhai' kind of money. Everywhere else properties have already fallen 20-30%. In gurgaon & NOIDA they are down 40% from previous year...
Even in Mumbai, prices are coming down (~10-20% from last year) however they are so high right now it has to crash more than 50% to come in "NRI" range. I feel sorry for the common middle class of Mumbai... They have no options but to go beyond Borivali and Thane even after crash :( ....
Even in Mumbai, prices are coming down (~10-20% from last year) however they are so high right now it has to crash more than 50% to come in "NRI" range. I feel sorry for the common middle class of Mumbai... They have no options but to go beyond Borivali and Thane even after crash :( ....
arihant
02-09 03:14 PM
Does the SKIL bill apply only to MS, or MBA too ?
I do not think the language of the SKIL bill clarified that. All it said was advanced degree from the US (which can be interpreted as MS, MBA and any other degree (minimum 2 years) received after a 4 year bachelor's degree). So, who knows. We will have to wait and see how it will be interpreted if and when SKIL bill comes back for discussion.
I do not think the language of the SKIL bill clarified that. All it said was advanced degree from the US (which can be interpreted as MS, MBA and any other degree (minimum 2 years) received after a 4 year bachelor's degree). So, who knows. We will have to wait and see how it will be interpreted if and when SKIL bill comes back for discussion.
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